An unusual dialogue
NDW- We came here to achieve something, to experience something, to learn something, and it’s not fair that our lives are cut short by a maniacal thug with crazy ideas.
God – First of all, you are not here to learn anything. (Reread volume 1!) Life is not a school, and your goal here is not to learn; it is to remember.
And from a broader point of view, life is often “shortened” by many things: a hurricane, an earthquake…
NDW- It’s different. You are talking about a case of force majeure.
God- Every event is an act of God.
Can you imagine that an event could take place if I didn’t want it to? Do you think you could even lift your little finger if I chose for you not to? You can’t do anything if I’m against it.
However, let us continue to explore this idea of “unjustified” death together. Is it “wrong” for a life to be cut short by illness?
“False” is not a word that applies here. These are natural causes. This is not the same as a human being like Hitler killing people.
NDW-And an accident? A stupid accident?
God-Same thing. It’s unfortunate, tragic, but it’s God’s Will. We cannot look into the mind of God and find out why these things happen. We must not try, because the Will of God is immutable and incomprehensible. To seek to unravel the divine mystery is to aspire to a knowledge beyond our reach.
It’s a sin.
God- How do you know?
Because if God wanted us to understand all of this, we would. The fact that we cannot do it is proof that it is God’s will that we not do it.
God- I see.
The fact that you do not understand this is proof of God’s Will. The fact that this happens is not proof of God’s Will. Hmmm
NDW-I guess I’m not very good at explaining some of this, but I know what I believe.
God- Do you believe in the Will of God, that God is Almighty?
NDW-Yes.
Except when it comes to Hitler. What happened there was not God’s Will
God- No ?
NDW- How is this possible?
Hitler violated the Will of God.
God- Now how do you think he could do this if My Will is all powerful?
NDW- You allowed him to do so.
If I allowed him, then it was My Will that he do it.
It seems so… but what possible reason could you have?
No. It was Your Will that he have free choice. It was his will to do what he did.
God- You are so close on this. So close. You are right, of course. It was My Will that Hitler – that all of you – had a free choice. But it is not My Will that you be punished constantly, endlessly, if you do not make the choice I want you to make. If that were the case, how “freely” did I make your choice? Are you really free to do what you want if you know you will suffer indescribably if you don’t do what you want? What kind of choice is this?
NDW- It’s not about punishment. It’s just a natural law. It’s simply a matter of consequences.
God – I see that you have been well educated in all the theological constructions which allow you to consider Me as a vengeful God – without making Me responsible for it.
But who established these natural laws? And if we can agree that I had to put them in place, why would I put such laws in place – and then give you the power to overcome them?
If I did not want you to be affected by them, if it was my Will for My wonderful beings to never suffer, why would I create the possibility that you could?
And then, why would I continue to tempt you, day and night, to break the laws I have established?
NDW-You’re not tempting us. The devil does it.
God- And there it is again, making me not responsible. Don’t you see that the only way to rationalize your theology is to render Me powerless?
Do you understand that the only way your constructions can make sense is if Mine don’t?
Are you really comfortable with the idea of a God who creates a being whose actions he cannot control?
NDW-I didn’t say you couldn’t control the devil. You can overcome anything. You are God! It’s just that you chose not to. allow the devil to tempt us, to try to win our souls.
God-But why? Why would I do this if I don’t want you to come back to me?
NDW- Because you want us to come to you out of choice because there is no choice. You created heaven and hell could be a choice. We could therefore act by choice, and simply follow one path because there is no other.
God- I can see how you arrived at this idea. This is how I have organized it in your world, and therefore you think that it must be this way in Mine.
In your reality, Good cannot exist without Evil. So you believe that it must be the same for Mine.
However, I tell you this: there is no “bad” where I am. And there is no Evil. There is only the Whole, the Unity. And the awareness, the experience of that.
Mine is the realm of the absolute, where one thing does not exist in relation to another, but entirely independent of everything.
Mine is the place where all that exists is love.
And there are no consequences to anything we think, say or do on Earth?
NDW- Oh, but there are consequences. Look around you.
I mean after death.
God- There is no “death”. Life goes on forever and ever. Life is. You simply change shape.
Fine, do as you wish, after “changing shape”. After changing form, the consequences cease to exist. There is just Knowledge.
God – Consequences are an element of relativity. They have no place in the Absolute because they depend on linear “time” and sequential events. These do not exist in the Realm of the Absolute.
In this area there is only peace, joy and love.
In this kingdom, you will finally know the Good News: that your “devil” does not exist, that you are who you always thought you were: goodness and love. Your idea that you might be something else comes from an insane external world, pushing you to act foolishly.
An outer world of judgment and condemnation. Others have judged you, and you have judged yourself based on their judgments.
Now you want God to judge you, and I won’t
And because you cannot understand a God who will not act as humans would, you are lost.
Your theology is your attempt to find yourself.
NDW- You call our theologies crazy, but how can a theology work without a system of reward and punishment?
God- It all depends on what you perceive as the purpose of life – and therefore the basis of theology.
If you believe that life exists as a test, a trial, a period in which you are tested to see if you are “worthy,” your theologies begin to make sense.
If you believe that life exists as an opportunity, a process by which you discover – you remember – that you are worthy (and always have been), then you theologians seem crazy.
If you believe that God is an ego-filled God who craves attention, worship, appreciation, and affection—and that you will kill to get it—your theologies begin to hold together.
If you believe that God is without ego or need, the source of all things and the seat of all wisdom and love, then your theologies collapse.
If you believe that God is a vengeful God, jealous in His love and wrathful in His anger, then your theology is perfect.
If you believe that God is a peaceful God, joyful in his love and passionate in his ecstasy, then your theology is useless.
I tell you: the purpose of life is not to please God. The purpose of life is to know and recreate who you are.
By doing so, you please God and glorify Him well.
Conversations with God continue…
Why do you keep saying “She”? Are you a She?
I am neither a “he” nor a “she”. I sometimes use the feminine pronoun to get you out of your parochial mind , If you think that God is one thing, then you will think that God is not another thing. And that would be a big mistake.
Hitler went to heaven for these reasons: There is no hell, so he has nowhere to go.
His actions were what you would call mistakes, the actions of an unevolved being – and mistakes are not punished by condemnation, but dealt with by offering a chance for correction, for evolution,
Hitler’s mistakes did not cause any harm to those whose deaths he caused. These souls have been freed from their earthly slavery, like butterflies emerging from a cocoon.
(See my text on metempsychosis: frantzrimpel.com)
The people who remained mourn these deaths only because they do not know the joy these souls entered into. No one who has experienced death ever mourns the death of anyone.
(Now ,We can then understand this biblical verse which says that: death is gain.) FR
Your statement that their deaths were nonetheless premature, and therefore somehow “wrong”, suggests that something could happen in the universe that isn’t supposed to. Yet, given who and what I am, it’s impossible.
Everything that happens in the universe happens perfectly. God hasn’t made a mistake in a very long time.
When you see absolute perfection in everything, not just in the things you agree with, but (and perhaps especially) in the things you disagree with, you achieve mastery.
I know all this, of course. We covered all of this in Book 1. But for those who haven’t read Book 1, I thought it was important to have a foundation of understanding at the beginning of this book. That’s why I started this series of questions and answers.
NDW- But now, before continuing, I would like to talk a little more about some of the very complex theologies that we as human beings have created.
For example, when I was a child, I was taught that I was a sinner, that all human beings are sinners, that there is nothing we can do about it; we were born like this. We are born in sin.
God – Quite an interesting concept. How could we have made you believe that?
They told us the story of Adam and Eve. They told us in 4th, 5th and 6th grade catechism that, well, we may not have sinned, and certainly babies didn’t, but Adam and Eve did and we are their descendants and so have inherited their guilt, as well as their sinful natures.
You see, Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit – partook of the knowledge of Good and Evil – and thus condemned all their heirs and descendants to separation from God at birth. We are all born with this “original sin” on our souls. Each of us shares the guilt. So we have the free choice to see, I suppose, whether we will do the same thing as Adam and Eve and disobey God, or whether we can overcome our natural and inherited tendency to “do evil” and do the right things to the place. despite the temptations of the world.
God- What if you do “bad”?
NDW-So you send us to hell.
God- What do I do?
NDW-Yes. Unless we repent.
God -I see.
NDW-If we say we are sorry – perform a perfect act of contrition – you will save us from hell – but not from all suffering. We will still have to go to Purgatory for a while, to cleanse ourselves of our sins.
God- How long will you have to stay in “Purgatory”?
NDW-Depends. We must burn our sins. It’s not very pleasant, I can tell you that. And the more sins we have, the longer it takes to burn them away – the longer we stay. That’s what I was told.
God- I understand.
NDW- But at least we won’t go to hell, which is eternal.
On the other hand, if we die in mortal sin, we go straight to hell.
God Mortal sin?
NDW-As opposed to venial sin. If we die with venial sin on our soul, we only go to Purgatory. Mortal sin sends us straight to hell.
God- Can you give me an example of these different categories of sin that you have been told about?
NDW-Of course. Mortal sins are serious. A bit like major crimes. Theological crimes. Things like murder, rape, theft. Venial sins are rather minor. Theological offenses. A venial sin would be the equivalent of missing church on a Sunday. Or, in the old days, eating meat on Fridays.
God -Wait a minute! Did your God send you to Purgatory if you ate meat on Friday?
NDW-Yes. But not anymore. Not since the early sixties. But if we ate meat on Fridays before the sixties, woe betide us.
God Really?
NDW- Absolutely.
God- Well, what happened in the early sixties to make this “sin” no longer a sin?
The Pope said it was no longer a sin.
God-I see. And your God, does he oblige you to worship him, to go to church on Sunday? Under penalty of punishment?
God-Not attending mass is a sin, yes. And if you don’t confess it – if you die with this sin on your soul – you will have to go to Purgatory.
God-But what about a child? What about a little innocent child who doesn’t know all these “rules” by which God loves?
NDW-Well, if a child dies before being baptized into the faith, that child enters limbo.
God- Go where ?
NDW-Limbo. It is not a place of punishment, but it is not paradise either. It’s good… limbo. You can’t be with God, but at least you don’t have to “go to hell.”
God-But why couldn’t this beautiful and innocent child be with God? The child did nothing wrong.
NDW-That’s true, but the child was not baptized. No matter how blameless or innocent babies or anyone else is, they must be baptized to enter heaven. Otherwise, God cannot accept them. This is why it is important to have your children baptized quickly, shortly after their birth.
God-Who told you all this?
NDW-God. By His church.
Which church? The Holy Roman Catholic Church, of course. It is the church of God. In fact, if you are Catholic and attend another church, that is also a sin.
God-I thought it was a sin not to go to church!
Yes. It is also a sin to go to the wrong church.
God- What is a “bad” church?
Any church that is not Roman Catholic. You can’t be baptized in the wrong church, you can’t get married in the wrong church – you can’t even attend a wrong church. I know this for a fact, because when I was a young man, I wanted to accompany my parents to a friend’s wedding – I was actually asked to attend the wedding as an usher – but the nuns told me said I shouldn’t accept the invitation because it was to the wrong church.
God-Have you obeyed them?
The nuns? No, I thought God- You would show up to the other church as willingly as You came to mine, so I went. I stood in the sanctuary in a tuxedo and felt great.
God- Good. Well, let’s see now, we have heaven, we have hell, we have purgatory, we have limbo, we have mortal sin, we have venial sin – is there anything else?
Well, there is confirmation, communion and confession, there is exorcism and Extreme Unction. There is-
God-Hold on –
-there are patron saints and holy days of obligation-
Every day is hallowed. Every minute is holy.
God-This, now, is the Holy Moment.
NDW-Well, yes, but some days are truly holy – the holy days of obligation – and on those days we must also go to church.
God- Here we go again for the “essentials”.
And what happens if you don’t?
NDW- It’s a sin.
God -Then you go to hell.
Well, you go to Purgatory if you die with this sin on your soul. This is why it is good to confess. Really, as often as you can. Some people go every week. Some people every day. This way they can wipe the slate clean – keep it clean, so if they were to die…
God-Wow, talk about living in constant fear.
NDW-Yes, you see, that is the goal of religion: to put in us the fear of God. So we do good and resist temptation.
God- Uh-huh. But now, what happens if you commit a “sin” between two faiths, then have an accident or something and die?
NDW-It’s good. Do not panic. Just perform a perfect act of contrition. “Oh, my God, I am sincerely sorry for offending you…”
God-Okay, okay, that’s enough.
NDW-But wait. It is just one of the world’s religions. Don’t you want to look at others?
God- No, I get the picture.
Well, I hope people don’t think I’m just ridiculing their beliefs.
You’re not really ridiculing anyone, you’re just telling it like it is. It’s like your American president Harry Truman said. “Give them hell, Harry!” » people were shouting and Harry was saying, “I don’t give a damn.” I just quote them directly, and it’s like hell. »
End of chapter 3….
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